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⚐ ReportOstrander: "Is she going to sabotage the others [participating in the competition]?" Student: "...How would you do that?" //Others started saying ideas. Ostrander: "I see you have grown up in a nice household." Ostrander: "See, all these others have ideas." //We diverged into a conversation about whether or not sabotage was ethical, which turned into one about whether or not sabotage *in war* was ethical. //On the topic of being "ethical" vs. being "justified", Ostrander is setting up a scenario. Ostrander: "Suppose you were at war, and the universe deemed that your side was in the right and the other side was in the wrong." Ostrander: "Like, suppose they committed many atrocities." Ostrander: "Like, making their children root for the Mets."